Comments on: post-post-Pride recap http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/ politics, media, culture and life from a queer boricua in brooklyn Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:10:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Trans Day of Action - Friday, June 27, NYC at AngryBrownButch http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-51976 Trans Day of Action - Friday, June 27, NYC at AngryBrownButch Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:30:44 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-51976 [...] that I’ll be going and every year has been exciting, inspirational, and powerful. (You can read about the 2006 march here.) The Trans Day of Action is my favorite NYC Pride rally/march type event, because it’s both [...] [...] that I’ll be going and every year has been exciting, inspirational, and powerful. (You can read about the 2006 march here.) The Trans Day of Action is my favorite NYC Pride rally/march type event, because it’s both [...]

]]> By: Frank León Roberts http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-6738 Frank León Roberts Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:08:01 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-6738 great blog, keep spitting the knowlege strong great blog, keep spitting the knowlege strong

]]> By: piny http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-5604 piny Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:43:15 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-5604 I'm glad you liked my post so much. I'm grateful for the opportunity to get into this discussion. And thanks. I'll keep it in mind in future. I’m glad you liked my post so much. I’m grateful for the opportunity to get into this discussion.

And thanks. I’ll keep it in mind in future.

]]> By: brownfemipower http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-5597 brownfemipower Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:06:31 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-5597 haha, yeah, i didn't mean *totally* EVIL---just "a way to signify a particular woman"...so I take back "Evil" and maybe replace it with Problematic Woman. :-) about plastic handcuffs--at least there are tricks to slipping out of the metal handcuffs...and many times even if they're too tight, they aren't going to rip into you like plastic ones do...my friend had them so tight they made her bleed... haha, yeah, i didn’t mean *totally* EVIL—just “a way to signify a particular woman”…so I take back “Evil” and maybe replace it with Problematic Woman. :-)

about plastic handcuffs–at least there are tricks to slipping out of the metal handcuffs…and many times even if they’re too tight, they aren’t going to rip into you like plastic ones do…my friend had them so tight they made her bleed…

]]> By: Jack http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-5595 Jack Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:07:16 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-5595 heh, thanks for the "fierce" compliment - means a lot coming from you. y'know, even though what she said/the opinion she has pretty much sucks, i wouldn't want to characterize the Dyke March organizer as evil. i mean, she's probably also done a whole lot of work and thinks a whole lot of things that i'd be down with. maybe i'm being too generous - she might well think that me and folks like me are evil - but, yeah. and yes - those plastic handcuffs - those, i have no problem calling evil. pure evil. it was sad/scary/fucked up, what i saw them do to people during the RNC drama. heh, thanks for the “fierce” compliment – means a lot coming from you.

y’know, even though what she said/the opinion she has pretty much sucks, i wouldn’t want to characterize the Dyke March organizer as evil. i mean, she’s probably also done a whole lot of work and thinks a whole lot of things that i’d be down with. maybe i’m being too generous – she might well think that me and folks like me are evil – but, yeah.

and yes – those plastic handcuffs – those, i have no problem calling evil. pure evil. it was sad/scary/fucked up, what i saw them do to people during the RNC drama.

]]> By: Jack http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-5594 Jack Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:03:31 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-5594 oh hey, thanks for posting about it - i'll check it out. i use she/her/hers pronouns. my usual explanation: they don't really fit right, but they fit best, right now at least. oh hey, thanks for posting about it – i’ll check it out.

i use she/her/hers pronouns. my usual explanation: they don’t really fit right, but they fit best, right now at least.

]]> By: brownfemipower http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-5593 brownfemipower Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:57:16 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-5593 goddamn you're fierce!!! i would have passed out at the speach thing, then I would have just walked away from Evil Woman. this is absolutly not a rambling pambly entry--for those of us (ME) who have problems standing up to intimidation, you have given some very valuable skills/lessons. ps. i have heard consistantly that the plastic handcuffs are way worse than the metal ones...i've got a friend who got nerve damage from the plastic ones... goddamn you’re fierce!!! i would have passed out at the speach thing, then I would have just walked away from Evil Woman.
this is absolutly not a rambling pambly entry–for those of us (ME) who have problems standing up to intimidation, you have given some very valuable skills/lessons.
ps. i have heard consistantly that the plastic handcuffs are way worse than the metal ones…i’ve got a friend who got nerve damage from the plastic ones…

]]> By: piny http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-5555 piny Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:05:51 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-5555 Jack, I posted about your post over at feministe. I should probably have asked beforehand, but I'll go ahead and do it now: do you have a pronoun preference? I didn't want to assume. Jack, I posted about your post over at feministe. I should probably have asked beforehand, but I’ll go ahead and do it now: do you have a pronoun preference? I didn’t want to assume.

]]> By: Jack http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-5549 Jack Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:25:24 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-5549 I think we probably agree more than we disagree about the Dyke March, including getting pissed at efforts about including trans men and total disregard for the need to include trans women. I guess my major questions, though, are: - what about folks who are not male-ID'd, but not strongly woman-identified? what about folks like me who just define themselves as genderqueer, or butches, or something like that? - in terms of trans men - I don't really like the idea of instantaneously cutting someone out of a community to which they've belonged for some time at the moment of transition. I also believe in the importance/right to women's spaces, but there's got to be some kinder, more considerate and understanding way. I think we probably agree more than we disagree about the Dyke March, including getting pissed at efforts about including trans men and total disregard for the need to include trans women.

I guess my major questions, though, are:
- what about folks who are not male-ID’d, but not strongly woman-identified? what about folks like me who just define themselves as genderqueer, or butches, or something like that?
- in terms of trans men – I don’t really like the idea of instantaneously cutting someone out of a community to which they’ve belonged for some time at the moment of transition. I also believe in the importance/right to women’s spaces, but there’s got to be some kinder, more considerate and understanding way.

]]> By: Am I Nuts? http://angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/post-post-pride-recap/#comment-5548 Am I Nuts? Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:48:20 +0000 http://www.angrybrownbutch.com/2006/07/14/103#comment-5548 Personally, I find plastic handcuffs way more painful than metal ones. I keep wanting to say something articulate about why I disagree about the Dyke March and think it's critical that it be for self-identified women only... (I say this as a stone butch who's not strongly woman-identified. I really value dyke space that does NOT include male-ID'd, non-woman identified people and I get really pissed at all the efforts to include transmen in women's space and the way no one cares about how much more important it is to include transwomen, who actually do ID as women). But I really don't have it in me right now to write about. One day soon, though. Personally, I find plastic handcuffs way more painful than metal ones.

I keep wanting to say something articulate about why I disagree about the Dyke March and think it’s critical that it be for self-identified women only… (I say this as a stone butch who’s not strongly woman-identified. I really value dyke space that does NOT include male-ID’d, non-woman identified people and I get really pissed at all the efforts to include transmen in women’s space and the way no one cares about how much more important it is to include transwomen, who actually do ID as women). But I really don’t have it in me right now to write about. One day soon, though.

]]>